Ruth Paine
Ruth Hyde Paine was a friend of Marina Oswald, who was living with her at the time of the JFK assassination. According to five government investigations, Lee Harvey Oswald stored the 6.5 mm caliber Carcano rifle that he used to assassinate U.S. President John F. Kennedy in Ruth Paine's garage, unbeknownst to her and her husband, Michael Paine.
Ruth Paine answered more than 5,000 questions for the Warren Commission. There were over 500 witnesses for the Warren Commission, and the average number of questions asked for each witness was less than 300. Furthermore, Ruth Paine has given more interviews than any other Warren Commission witness, always consistent with her Warren Commission testimony.
Background
Paine was born Ruth Avery Hyde, to her parents, William A. and Carol E. Hyde. She went to Antioch College and became a Quaker. Through her interest in folk dancing and music she met her future husband Michael Paine. Though strictly speaking not a Quaker, Michael attended meetings with Ruth. They married on December 28, 1957.In 1959 Michael Paine got a job with Bell Helicopter in Fort Worth, Texas and the Paines moved into a house in the suburb of Irving. As liberals in Dallas, the Paines were isolated, and Ruth Paine was quite lonely.
Ruth Paine had been studying Russian since 1957. In the late 1950s she participated in Quaker pen pal programs and the East-West Contact Committee, which sponsored visits by three Soviets to the US. In 1963 she signed up to teach a summer class in Russian at St. Mark's School in Dallas, but only one student signed up.
Ruth Paine met the Oswalds through her interest in the Russian language. She had learned to read Russian, but she had difficulty with conversational Russian. Also, she and Michael Paine were separated at this time. A mutual friend from their Madrigal singing group, Everett Glover, invited her to a party at his apartment on February 22, 1963 because he thought she would be interested in meeting two interesting people who spoke Russian.
The attendance of the couple, Lee and Marina Oswald, was arranged by Oswald's friend, 51-year-old Russian émigré George de Mohrenschildt, a well-educated petroleum geologist with intelligence connections.
Ruth and Marina 2/22/1963 to 5/11/1963
Following is a terse summary of Ruth Paine's long testimony to the Warren Commission about events starting from the date when Ruth first met Marina Oswald until the date when Ruth and her infant children, Lynn and Chris, drove Marina and baby June to New Orleans to be reunited with Lee Harvey Oswald.- FEBRUARY 22nd 1963
This Russian-speaking couple was also eccentric, which might entertain his engineer friends. They were Lee Harvey Oswald and Marina Oswald. LHO had defected to the USSR and then returned to the USA. He was a novelty in the Dallas area.
The Paines accepted this invitation from Everett Glover, but at the last minute, Michael decided not to go. Ruth went alone.
Marina had taken baby June to Glover's party. Marina knew no English, so she mostly spoke with Jeanne De Mohrenschildt who spoke Russian natively. Ruth could read Russian, but her conversational skills were low -- they spoke too fast for her.
Yet Marina would very courteously correct Ruth, and Ruth simply loved that. Ruth wanted to be friends with charming Marina, and asked for her phone number. Marina said, "We don't have a telephone," yet Marina promptly shared her home address. Ruth wanted this friendship.
- MARCH 4th - 12th 1963
On the mid-morning of the 12th, Ruth drove her toddlers from Irving to Dallas. The trip by car was about 40-minutes one-way. LHO was at work. Ruth and her children walked with Marina and baby June to a nearby park where the children played. Ruth thoroughly enjoyed that visit. At lunchtime Ruth had to return to Irving so that her children could have naps.
- MARCH 20th 1963
Yet Ruth assured Marina of her discretion. Then Marina confessed that LHO refused to allow her to learn English, and insisted that they speak only Russian to baby June. Ruth could see that Marina knew no English at all, so Ruth became upset with Lee's position. It seemed thoughtless and cruel. Yet Ruth lacked the conversational skills to tell Marina. Mostly Marina talked and Ruth listened.
On their third visit, March 27th, Ruth drove Marina and June to her place in Irving – two two-way trips taking more than two hours just driving. In that meeting, Marina told Ruth that LHO wanted her to return to the USSR with June -- without him, and that she truly hated the idea; she emphatically wanted to remain in America. LHO had even forced Marina to write to the USSR Embassy for papers and the USSR replied, asking why. Marina had not yet answered that letter.
Ruth now became angry. Marina was pregnant! LHO refused to let Marina learn English in America! Marina was tormented by Lee’s threat to send her and June back to the USSR when Marina wanted to stay in America! That was cowardly abandonment instead of a courageous divorce! Ruth felt that she had to do something about this moral outrage – as a Christian duty.
- MARCH 26th 1963
Since Ruth and Michael were separated, Michael was sensitive to the fact of Ruth's loneliness in Irving -- her desire for educated conversation, and her desire to learn Russian. So, he allowed Ruth to pursue the idea -- but only with LHO's approval.
By the way, Ruth at this time saw LHO as a normal man who simply wanted to divorce his wife -- and she had no fear that LHO was violent. So, after a few visits with Marina, Ruth now decided to invite both LHO and Marina to dinner to meet Michael on family night. That way Michael could offer an informed opinion about LHO.
- APRIL 2nd 1963
The plan was for Michael to drive to Dallas to pick up the Oswalds at their Neely Street address. Marina was not yet ready, yet LHO did nothing to help except barking orders at her from his living room sofa next to Michael. Michael thought LHO was rude.
While waiting for Marina, LHO showed Michael one of his 'Backyard Photographs' showing LHO holding a rifle, wearing a gun, and holding two Marxist newspapers. As Michael had already told the Warren Commission, he knew right then that LHO was not a genuine Marxist, because Michael's own father had been a Marxist, and Michael knew a lot about it. A genuine Marxist joins a Party and follows the rules. No Marxist group allows individual members to make provocative photos like that. Michael now knew that LHO was a poser, and that the dinner conversation that night would be boring.
At dinner in Irving, LHO and Michael talked in English while Ruth spoke with Marina in Russian. After dinner, Marina and Ruth did the dishes and talked in Russian while Michael and LHO sat in the living room to converse. Ruth didn't hear their conversation. She knew that Michael was initially interested in what sort of American would move to the USSR; perhaps a thinker and an individualist. After Michael drove LHO and Marina home, he returned to tell Ruth that LHO was not a deep thinker as he'd hoped. LHO merely shared the dogmatic belief that capitalists wrongly exploited workers. Boring.
Ruth and Michael had no idea on April 2nd that LHO had lost his job just the day before. The topic never came up during dinner. Nor did they ask whether LHO was unhappy with his marriage, and might prefer for Marina to live with Ruth. Ruth didn’t want to offend anybody, so she kept quiet, although it was uppermost in her mind.
- APRIL 7th 1963
Ruth wanted to offer Marina a workable alternative to returning to the USSR, and she searched for the words to invite Marina to live with her -- only if Marina wanted to. Ruth still has that letter; she never mailed it. On April 8th, Ruth saw Marina again, and did not discuss the topic.
- APRIL 10th – 12th 1963
Ruth visited Marina again on April 11th for yet another pleasant picnic in the park with the children. This was when Marina told Ruth that LHO was out of work. Marina had just found out herself, because LHO lacked the courage to tell her about it. Ruth was still intent on keeping her friendship with Marina -- so she asked Marina to invite LHO to their next planned picnic -- on April 20th.
- APRIL 20th 1963
- APRIL 24th 1963
At the bus station, LHO checked in his baggage and bought two tickets. He returned to Ruth's car and handed Marina her ticket. LHO offered his plan: Marina would wait for his letter announcing that he finally found work and a place to live. Then Marina and June would travel by bus to New Orleans.
Ruth didn't like that plan. So, in broken Russian, she told LHO: "It’s very difficult for a pregnant woman with a small child and no English to pack up and take a 13-hour bus trip from Dallas to New Orleans. Therefore, why can’t I drive Marina and June to New Orleans? Also, instead of living alone at Neely Street, waiting for your letter, Marina and June could stay with me, where you could call her by telephone, instead of a letter!"
Lee liked the idea. He immediately took Marina's bus ticket back for a refund and gave Marina some of the money to last a few days. He had no planned date of contact. LHO drove with the women and children back to Neely Street, and LHO loaded all of their possessions and Ruth drove her children, along with Marina and baby June back to her home in Irving, Texas.
Ruth felt wonderful about this. Everything was going well. LHO was scheduled to leave by bus that night, and if he later decided to abandon Marina, Marina would be safe with Ruth. Nice plan.
After unpacking Marina’s things late in the day of the 24th, they made supper, ate, put their children to bed, and talked. Ruth gave Marina the number of her aging Russian tutor just in case Marina needed help whenever Ruth went on errands.
- APRIL 24th – MAY 8th 1963
And what about Marina's new baby? Even if she moved to New Orleans, she must get medical care very soon, because in six months Marina would have a new baby. If LHO didn't have medical insurance by then, then perhaps Marina could return to Ruth's house, and have her baby at Parkland Hospital. After all, baby June was now comfortable with Ruth, and Marina would need time and help to recover after childbirth.
Marina promised she would try to learn English despite LHO. Ruth then gifted Marina a Russian book entitled, “Self Teacher in the English Language.”
Then Ruth took Marina out to shop for maternity clothes. By surprise, they met someone in the Russian émigré community. Marina was pregnant! The truth was now out in Dallas' Russian émigré community.
Ruth took Marina and baby June to see the movie, "War and Peace". Marina knew the story line very well, so Marina despite the language difference, she enjoyed it. Ruth's steady stream of visitors continued as usual. Neighbors and their children; but nobody came to visit Marina; not even from the Russian émigré community. Nor did Marina ever phone them; though she knew how to use a telephone.
Every year the wealthy Ruth Paine would take a long summer vacation. She would drive back East to visit her family and friends, starting in May and ending in September. Ruth asked Marina to come with baby June. They spoke about possible jobs in New York, Philadelphia or Washington, where larger Russian communities would value her Russian skills. But, again, Marina was pregnant, and it was unlikely Marina would apply for any job soon. Ruth saw in Marina a self-respecting, capable woman.
- MAY 9th – 14th 1963
Ruth and Marina starting packing the car immediately, so that they could start out for New Orleans at noon on the 10th. That would get them to Shreveport by nighttime. Then they would arrive in New Orleans on the 11th. It worked. Everybody warmly embraced.
LHO and Marina invited Ruth and her children to stay with them for the weekend. Fine. Yet LHO and Marina bickered most of the time. Marina hated the roach-infested apartment. LHO continually told her to shut up. It was not always sour, though. Ruth and her children joined LHO, Marina and baby June in a visit to the French Quarter during the daytime. Yet Ruth had seen no clear opportunity to ask LHO about registering Marina at Parkland Hospital, to be prepared once her birth pangs began.
John F. Kennedy assassination
Involvement with Oswald family
Ruth Paine drove Marina Oswald to New Orleans when the Oswalds moved there in May 1963 and back to Dallas when they moved again in September 1963. When the Oswalds resettled in the Dallas area, Marina and Lee's child, June, moved in with Ruth Paine in the suburb of Irving, Texas while Lee stayed in a boarding house under the name O.H. Lee. The second Oswald child was born after Marina moved in. Marina helped with the housework and Ruth's Russian studies while Lee visited on weekends. Michael and Ruth had long been separated, but remained on good terms. Michael was a frequent visitor and cared for his children deeply. At the suggestion of a neighbor, Linnie Mae Randle, Ruth Paine told Lee Oswald about a job opportunity at the Texas School Book Depository.Lee Harvey Oswald stayed at the Paine home with Marina and his children unannounced on Thursday night, November 21, 1963—the night before President Kennedy was assassinated. When Oswald left for work on the morning of November 22, he brought a large package that he had kept in the Paine's garage with him to work at the Texas School Book Depository. Oswald's coworker and friend, Wesley Frazier testified that Oswald told him the bag contained curtain rods. The evidence demonstrated that the package actually contained the rifle used by Oswald in the assassination.
Eight days after the assassination of President Kennedy, on November 30, 1963, Ruth Paine inadvertently discovered evidence that Lee Oswald had attempted to assassinate General Edwin Walker. Among the letters that Ruth Paine repeatedly sent to Marina was a thick book of household advice in Russian. The book contained an undated note left by Lee for Marina on April 10, 1963 which Marina would later testify she had concealed. Before the Kennedy assassination, Dallas police had no suspects in the Walker shooting.
Aftermath of assassination
Ruth Paine testified before the Warren Commission and has been interviewed by a number of authors, including Johnson, William Manchester and Gerald Posner. She has appeared in numerous documentaries and even a mock trial of Lee Harvey Oswald. She also testified in Jim Garrison's trial of Clay Shaw. Paine was not called to testify before the House Select Committee on Assassinations.Articles that have appeared in the mainstream press and publications about Ruth Paine have generally been kind. However, others have often depicted the Paines in a negative light; after the assassination, Marina and Lee Oswald's mother Marguerite briefly stayed with Ruth Paine until Marina was taken into custody by the Secret Service. Marguerite and Lee's brother Robert did not like Ruth Paine, which may have influenced Marina Oswald. They thought Paine sought attention for herself, an opinion Marina would later express before the Warren Commission. Ruth wrote to Marina incessantly, with letters that took an almost desperate tone, but received no response except for a Christmas card. They met briefly in 1964 but afterwards they would never see each other again. Paine heard news about Marina through author Priscilla Johnson McMillan until McMillan's relationship with Marina broke off in the early 1980s.
Ruth Paine returned to Pennsylvania and became principal of a Quaker school, the Greene Street Friends School located in Germantown. She soon moved to St. Petersburg, Florida and earned a master's degree in psychology from the University of South Florida. After working for the school system in Franklin County in the Florida Panhandle, she returned to St. Petersburg and worked for the Hillsborough County, Florida school system until her retirement. She is active in Quaker and liberal charities and organizations and lives in Santa Rosa, California.
The City of Irving bought the former Paine home in 2009 and has been restoring it to its 1963 condition to be turned into a museum in time for the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination on November 22, 2013.
Conspiracy theorists have attempted to connect the Paines to various conspiracies going back generations, since both Ruth and Michael Paine's relatives and ancestors held important government and business positions.
According to a declassified CIA document, Ruth's sister, Sylvia Hyde Hoke, was listed as an employee of the agency in the Falls Church, VA local directory in 1961. Ruth visited and stayed with her sister in September 1963. Ruth admits that her sister may have worked for "an outfit."
Ruth's father, William Avery Hyde, was an insurance executive who went to work for USAID, which was and is a well known cover for CIA personnel. Declassified documents show that Hyde had contacts with the CIA, which at least considered him for use in an operation in Vietnam.
Ruth's husband Michael Paine was the son of Ruth Forbes Paine and George Lyman Paine Jr.. Ruth Forbes Paine was a close friend of Mary Bancroft, an OSS agent and at times a mistress of CIA director Allen Dulles and Henry Luce. Forbes Paine was also a student of Carl Jung. Ruth Forbes Paine later married Arthur M. Young, who was a member of Andrija Puharich's Roundtable Foundation.
In Oliver Stone's JFK, the Paines are depicted as Bill and Janet Williams, played by and Gail Cronauer. While most names in the movie JFK were not changed, it has been suggested the Paines were renamed to avoid potential legal action.
Ruth and Marina 6/6/1963 to 11/22/1963
Following is a terse summary of Ruth Paine's long testimony to the Warren Commission about events after June 1963, as Ruth continued writing to Marina Oswald with the goal of Marina having her baby at Parkland Hospital, through the success of that goal, and then to November 22nd, when JFK was assassinated.- JUNE – SEPTEMBER 1963
Ruth began her long summer vacation back East, staying with friends and family. Everybody wanted to talk about her separation from Michael, but Ruth was only interested in Marina Oswald, and about ‘saving’ Marina from her lout of a husband.
Ruth's letters continually encouraged Marina to live with her during Marina's upcoming childbirth. Marina needed proper medical care as offered by programs like those at Parkland Hospital in Dallas. In July Marina replied that all of that must depend on a formal divorce.
Ruth also telephoned Church ladies in New Orleans to find Russian contacts to provide Marina with Russian-speaking friends. The Quakers had none. The Unitarians found a partly Russian-speaking mother, Ruth Kloepfer and her two daughters, who agreed to visit Marina. That was nice.
In a new shock, on August 11th, Marina sent another letter saying that, “LHO doesn’t have work now already three weeks.” What a blockbuster. Marina was about six months pregnant and LHO had no job! This was Ruth's opportunity. In her plans to drive with her children back to Texas in September, Ruth offered to stop by New Orleans to talk about moving Marina to her house for the birth of the new baby.
- SEPTEMBER 20TH 1963
LHO made a much better impression on Ruth that weekend than ever before. Ruth could see, for the first time, that LHO was concerned about Marina’s physical health and childbirth options -- now that she was eight months pregnant, and had not yet seen a doctor. LHO seemed relieved to think of Marina at Parkland Hospital. Ruth was delighted with LHO's approval. This made all the difference to Ruth. During that weekend, Ruth, Marina and LHO planned a course of action so that Marina could have her baby while living in Irving.
During that weekend, also, Ruth first learned about LHO’s involvement with the pro-Castro movement. She asked LHO if his arrest in New Orleans would affect his ability to get and keep a job. He said he didn’t know, although he had lost his job before he was arrested.
LHO did most of the packing and all of the car loading on Sunday night, as Marina and Ruth would take the babies on long walks or to wash diapers at the local laundromat. LHO went out to buy all the groceries, and returned with a cheery call to his two girls, “Yabutchski!”
It was a very well loaded automobile because Ruth already had many things of her own, including a boat on the car-top and they also had a playpen on top. They left on Monday the 23rd. LHO sadly watched them leave, yet he gave Ruth no money nor any to Marina for this trip.
- SEPTEMBER 24th - OCTOBER 4th 1963
“To my surprise Lee was willing for Marina to come here to have the baby. Even grateful; he has been out of work since August. Their income is $33 a week unemployment compensation...I feel now that Lee wants to keep his family together and will send for them as soon as possible...I told them both of my expectation that you would be here February to June.”
In other words, Ruth planned for her own mother to come to live with her in Irving starting in February, 1964, and so Marina should be ready to move out by then. Ruth hoped that LHO would have a job by then.
In any case, Ruth, Marina and their children drove back to Irving, Texas.
From Tuesday, September 24th through Thursday, October 3rd, Marina, baby June, Ruth and her children enjoyed 10 days of peace and quiet. They received no word from LHO, by telephone or letter. They never discussed where LHO might be – they were busy enough registering Marina at Parkland Hospital. Marina had no visitors and no social contacts beyond Ruth and Ruth's neighbors.
Ruth wasn't worried that LHO had not contacted Marina -- Ruth was focused on Marina’s pregnancy.
- OCTOBER 4th 1963
Ruth left to buy groceries and expected LHO to arrive by bus around suppertime. Yet when Ruth returned an hour later, LHO was already there.
He explained that he'd hitchhiked. LHO said his 10-day search for work in Houston had failed, and he would now try Dallas. He said nothing about Mexico City. Ruth told LHO that a driver’s license would make him eligible for more jobs, and Ruth gave him Texas driving regulations booklet and a map for job-hunting. Warren Commission CE-128 appears to be that same map.
- OCTOBER 7th – 14th 1963
On Saturday, October 12th, LHO gave Ruth and Marina a contact telephone number for his new room in Dallas, just in case Marina went into labor. He gave no address.
Ruth wrote a letter, CE-425, to her mother dated Monday, October 14th. Ruth said she gave LHO a driving lesson:
“Dear Mom, Lee Oswald...arrived a week and a half ago and has been looking for work in Dallas ever since...If LHO can just find work that will help so much. Meantime I started giving him driving lessons last Sunday. If he can drive, this will open up more job possibilities and more locations...He spent last weekend and the one before with us here and was a happy addition to our expanded family. He played with baby Chris, watched football on TV, planed down the door that wouldn’t close..and generally added a needed masculine flavor. From a poor first impression I have come to like him...”
LHO and Ruth never had any political discussions. LHO never said a word against JFK.
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The first sentence that grabbed her attention said: “The FBI is not now interested in my activities.” What? The FBI had come looking for LHO twice! LHO was writing fibs on her typewriter! So, Ruth read the whole thing. Here is the entire document:
“Dear Sirs: This is to inform you of events since my interview with comrade Kostine in the Embassy of the Soviet Union, Mexico City, Mexico. I was unable to remain in Mexico City indefinitely because of my Mexican visa restriction which was for 15 days only. I could not take a chance on applying for an extension unless I used my real name so I returned to the U.S. I and Marina Nicholyeva are now living in Dallas, Texas. The FBI is not now interested in my activities in the progressive organization FPCC of which I was secretary in New Orleans, Louisiana since I no longer live in that state. The FBI has visited us here in Texas on November 1st. Agent of the FBI James P. Hasty warned me that if I attempt to engage in FPCC activities in Texas the FBI will again take an ‘interest’ in me. The agent also ‘suggested’ that my wife could remain in the U.S. under FBI ‘protection’, that is, Marina could defect from the Soviet Union. Of course I and my wife strongly protested these tactics by the notorious FBI. I had not planned to contact the Mexico City Embassy at all so of course they were unprepared for me. Had I been able to reach Havana as planned, the Soviet Embassy would have had time to assist me, but of course the stupid Cuban consul was at fault here. I am glad he has since been replaced by another.”
Ruth regarded this letter as fiction with some alarming elements: the FBI really was interested in LHO, since they had just visited her, twice, asking about him; Hosty’s invitation to Marina talk to the FBI about any USSR pressures was not an invitation to defect; LHO falsely suggested that he was present at these FBI visits, and that he and Marina “protested vigorously;” and LHO concluded with the words, “notorious FBI,” which Ruth found disturbing.
Ruth regarded the Mexico City story as nothing but fiction.'' Since LHO had addressed this letter to the USSR Embassy with, “Dear Sirs,” Ruth discounted espionage. Ruth related this letter to those letters that Marina told her about, where LHO had forced Marina to write to the USSR. Ruth decided to make a handwritten copy of this letter to give to the FBI Agent the next time he called. Then Ruth carefully placed the letter back, precisely where it had been.
Once again, Ruth felt justified in regarding LHO with some suspicion. Why was the FBI still tracking LHO in Dallas?
- NOVEMBER 15th – 19th 1963
It didn't occur to Ruth that lying to his wife was an FBI matter. The following day, Tuesday, November the 19th, LHO called and complained to Marina for calling him at his rooming house! He had turned it back on her! Marina slammed down the phone.
- NOVEMBER 20th – 21st 1963
They had dinner as usual, and it seemed to Ruth that Marina and LHO were gradually making up. Ruth had cooked dinner so Marina and LHO washed the dishes as Ruth bathed her children, put them to bed, read them a story, and let Marina and LHO be alone. By 9 PM LHO was already in bed.
Ruth went out to the garage to paint some crafts, and she noticed that the light was on in her garage. That was strange for her house. Ruth believed that LHO had been out there since Marina had also been busy with her own children. Ruth thought it was careless of LHO to leave the light on, but Ruth finished her work and then turned off the light and left the garage.
- NOVEMBER 22nd 1963
When Marina got up Marina said absolutely nothing about anything unusual. She had nursed the baby in the morning as LHO got ready, but went back to sleep after that. Ruth fixed breakfast for her own children, turned on the TV to hear JFK speak in Fort Worth and then left about 9 AM with her children for a dentist appointment and some errands. Ruth left the TV on for Marina. Ruth returned sometime before noon and Marina thanked her for leaving the TV on, because the glad reception of JFK and Jackie at Love Field had lifted her spirits.
Ruth was preparing lunch when the TV said that JFK had been shot; Ruth translated this to Marina through her tears. Ruth lit some candles with baby Lynn. An hour later, they heard confirmation that JFK was dead. The announcer said the shot came from the TSBD. Marina was outside hanging clothes, and Ruth went outside to tell her. They stood there, looking at each other.
As they watched, the TV news reported that somebody had been arrested at a movie theater. Suddenly, the doorbell rang and she saw six police and deputy officers at her door. Ruth thinks that this was just after 3pm, because they had put their children down for their naps. The man in front said “We have LHO Oswald in custody. He is charged with shooting an officer.”
Now Ruth realized that they were in real trouble. Ruth invited the officers inside immediately, warrant or not, and Ruth told them that LHO’s things were in the garage. Still, they spread out and searched every room in her house. From the garage, one officer asked her if LHO had any guns, and Ruth honestly answered, no! Ruth translated the question to Marina, however, and Marina answered, yes!
Ruth was stunned. Marina said she had seen part of a gun inside a blanket roll on the floor, and Marina pointed to the blanket. Ruth translated this to the officers, and they picked up that blanket and it flopped over. Marina blanched – and Marina was good at hiding her feelings. This was bad. First the TSBD, and now a missing rifle.
The police then insisted that Ruth and Marina come downtown to make official statements. By that time, Michael appeared at Ruth's door, thinking that she might need support, and he was right -- but the officers wanted him to come downtown as well. Ruth had to quickly find a babysitter for her children as officers hauled several boxes from her garage and house to their cars. Then Michael, Ruth, Marina and baby June went downtown with the police. On the way one policeman asked Ruth, “Are you a Communist?” She replied, “No, and I don’t even need the 5th amendment.” He seemed satisfied with that.
The DPD station hired professor Ilya Mamantov to translate Russian, instead of Ruth. As they waited their turn for interrogation, Michael and Ruth saw LHO’s mother enter. They had never seen her before. Marina and Marguerite Oswald hugged and wept. Grandmother cooed over the new baby, whom she had never seen before. Then LHO’s brother, Robert, entered. Michael and Ruth had never seen him before, either.
After all their depositions, in which Marina provisionally identified LHO’s rifle, the DPD police drove them all back to Ruth's home as a group. This was about 9 PM. Michael bought hamburgers for everybody’s supper and then Robert went to a hotel while Marguerite Oswald asked to stay with Marina at her home that night, and Ruth agreed.
After that night, however, the Oswald family with the help of the FBI and Secret Service moved Marina, baby June and baby Rachel into their sole custody. Basically, Ruth never reestablished a relationship with Marina again, despite her many efforts.
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