Ancient and modern arms


Ancient and modern are terms used in heraldry to differentiate two different coats of arms used at different periods by a family or other bearer. Reasons for changing arms have been numerous, the most famous being the 1376 change in the French royal arms by Charles V of France to show three fleurs-de-lis instead of semee de lis, possibly to symbolize the Holy Trinity. The reasons for other changes were more prosaic, for example where a court of chivalry ordered a change or differencing where two families claimed the same arms, as in the famous case of Scrope v Grosvenor. The resulting two versions of arms are referred to as "France ancient" and "France modern", "Grosvenor ancient" and "Grosvenor modern".

List of examples

FamilyAncient armsModern armsDate of changeNotes
Capet 1376See article Royal Arms of France
Portugal 1245 /1485 See article Coat of arms of Portugal
Grosvenor1389See article Scrope v Grosvenor
Gorges1347See article Warbelton v Gorges
Percy1273-1314See article Henry de Percy, 1st Baron Percy
TalbotSee article Baron Talbot. Modern arms are of Rhys Mechyll, and wife of Gilbert Talbot, grandfather of Gilbert Talbot, 1st Baron Talbot
Cantilupe1275-1282See article Thomas de Cantilupe
Killigrewée''See article Arwenack
Scudamore